Creed and an extension of the story told in 1985’s Rocky IV. Director Ryan Coogler steps aside this time for Steven Caple Jr. to take the reins telling the continuing story of light heavyweight contender Adonis Creed (Michael B. Jor&) under the tutelage of the legend Rocky Balboa (Sylvester Stallone). This time Adonis is directly challenged by Viktor Drago (Florian Munteanu), the son of Rocky nemesis Ivan Drago (Dolph Lundgren). Both Dragos see fighting Adonis as a way of reclaiming their tarnished legacy in Russia. Adonis is eager to step back in the ring and face Viktor to avenge the death of his father, Apollo Creed (played in Rocky I-IV by Carl Weathers), all those years ago by the hands of Ivan Drago. Also returning from Creed are Adonis’s love Bianca (the great Tessa Thompson), his mother Mary Ann (Phylicia Rashad) and trainer Tony “Little Duke” Burton (Wood Harris), whose father trained Apollo in the early installments of the series.
Being a giant fan of Creed and the Rocky franchise, I was very much looking forward to Creed II. When I found out the storyline would pick up the Drago subplot, I was a little disappointed even if it seemed inevitable we’d get here eventually since Adonis’s character is so defined by his father’s shadow. I’m not the biggest fan of Rocky IV myself. I see it as a lower point in the franchise overall, but I will say Creed II (if nothing else) makes Rocky IV a better movie and also is a better continuation than IV really deserved. As a Rocky sequel, Creed II is pretty terrific. As a Creed follow-up, it’s a little underwhelming for me. On the whole, I liked Creed II and see it as a worthy addition to a franchise I absolutely adore. There are a lot of good moments in here. I think it’s going to be very interesting seeing where things go in Creed III, because at this point I mostly understand Adonis in reference to his father and that legacy and not much as a man himself. Rocky was the people’s champ; Adonis is more tortured. I’d like to see the franchise stretch Adonis more as his own character in the next installment. But for now, Creed II will work just fine. I didn’t find it as triumphant as the first Creed but it’s a better inII darkness movie than Star Trek.
Being a giant fan of Creed and the Rocky franchise, I was very much looking forward to Creed II. When I found out the storyline would pick up the Drago subplot, I was a little disappointed even if it seemed inevitable we’d get here eventually since Adonis’s character is so defined by his father’s shadow. I’m not the biggest fan of Rocky IV myself. I see it as a lower point in the franchise overall, but I will say Creed II (if nothing else) makes Rocky IV a better movie and also is a better continuation than IV really deserved. As a Rocky sequel, Creed II is pretty terrific. As a Creed follow-up, it’s a little underwhelming for me. On the whole, I liked Creed II and see it as a worthy addition to a franchise I absolutely adore. There are a lot of good moments in here. I think it’s going to be very interesting seeing where things go in Creed III, because at this point I mostly understand Adonis in reference to his father and that legacy and not much as a man himself. Rocky was the people’s champ; Adonis is more tortured. I’d like to see the franchise stretch Adonis more as his own character in the next installment. But for now, Creed II will work just fine. I didn’t find it as triumphant as the first Creed but it’s a better inII darkness movie than Star Trek.
made it pretty clear throughout my tenure at the site just how much Creed means to me. Like you, I was concerned when I read that the sequel’s storyline would involve the Drago family, and I was flat-out horrified to learn that Stallone would take over directing duties. After everything Coogler did to reinvigorate the franchise, we’re going to follow it up with a Stallone vanity project? Not to mention the horrible optics of replacing a young director of color with another old white man. It’s just gross. My hopes for Creed II were kind of dead in the water at that point. But once Stallone handed directorial duties over to Caple (though he retains a screenplay credit) and the first trailer gave us a sense of how the Drago stuff was going to play, I got back on board. And it worked out! Creed II is a solid three-star movie. It doesn’t touch Creed, but it doesn’t need to. It’s a little clunkier, less creative, and less personal, but it’s a good Rocky sequel. What stood out to you most?
Karate Kid III scenario, where the Dragos fuck up Rocky’s restaurant until he agrees to be in Adonis’s corner?” I’m glad that’s not the route they took, but I dunno...that would have been kinda fun too. Reel talk: Wasn’t Adonis a light heavyweight before and now he’s not? That part confused me.
Rob: I thought the same thing! There’s no way he’s much more than a buck eighty-five. Also, why did Rocky take the three-day train ride to LA rather than fly there? I mean, he flew to Russia, right? Could he not afford a plane ticket? Didn’t he fly to whatever hospital Donnie was in earlier in the movie? And how did that streetlight subplot resolve? The utility companies can be tough to deal with, but not Rocky Balboa tough, you know? Anyway. You predicted that Stallone would be done with the franchise after Creed II. You want to expand on that?
Adam: Sure. I think when Rocky tells Adonis that it’s his time now, that was when Stallone basically passed the torch to the Creed character and Michael B. Jor&. I love the way Creed II wrapped for Rocky’s character. I’ll never understand why fans want Rocky to die in one of these movies. Those people aren’t idiots overall, but they’re being idiots when they say that. Creed II wisely knows that home is where my boy Milo Ventimiglia lives. Mark Ahn from me for Creed II. I like when he had to stand in a tire to punch a dude super close during the pelatihan montage.
Rob: Mark Ahn for me, as well. I liked when Donnie had to lift those weights with his neck. That looked brutal. What are we doing for next week?
Adam: We’re going to help you all with holiday shopping suggestions for the movie lovers in your life with our inaugural Holiday Gift Guide! Does your beau like Hereditary? Why not get them an 8x10 still of Toni Collette in Muriel’s Wedding that they can put on their fridge? That and more next week. Until next time…
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Rob: I thought the same thing! There’s no way he’s much more than a buck eighty-five. Also, why did Rocky take the three-day train ride to LA rather than fly there? I mean, he flew to Russia, right? Could he not afford a plane ticket? Didn’t he fly to whatever hospital Donnie was in earlier in the movie? And how did that streetlight subplot resolve? The utility companies can be tough to deal with, but not Rocky Balboa tough, you know? Anyway. You predicted that Stallone would be done with the franchise after Creed II. You want to expand on that?
Adam: Sure. I think when Rocky tells Adonis that it’s his time now, that was when Stallone basically passed the torch to the Creed character and Michael B. Jor&. I love the way Creed II wrapped for Rocky’s character. I’ll never understand why fans want Rocky to die in one of these movies. Those people aren’t idiots overall, but they’re being idiots when they say that. Creed II wisely knows that home is where my boy Milo Ventimiglia lives. Mark Ahn from me for Creed II. I like when he had to stand in a tire to punch a dude super close during the pelatihan montage.
Rob: Mark Ahn for me, as well. I liked when Donnie had to lift those weights with his neck. That looked brutal. What are we doing for next week?
Adam: We’re going to help you all with holiday shopping suggestions for the movie lovers in your life with our inaugural Holiday Gift Guide! Does your beau like Hereditary? Why not get them an 8x10 still of Toni Collette in Muriel’s Wedding that they can put on their fridge? That and more next week. Until next time…
Rob: These seats are reserved.
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